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What is the avg size farm in your area?
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jdpowerfarmer
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ye 30,000 cattle is a lot in one huge shed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it is! Can't imagine what their feed/vet bills would be like Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupidly expenisve i expect, i can fathem how farmers want to keep catlle indoor 100% of the time, i mean lameness, feed, vet bills, milk fever increased. Nothing like sitting in a field and watching our herd of fresians grazing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there a farm nere mine call lord ds theere the second biggest farm in the uk second best to barlets
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with JDPF, there is nothin like watchin aherd graze. Also agree tha tit's just stupid to keep them locked inside all day!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it harsh to lock them up
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robbiet09 wrote:
it harsh to lock them up

I disagree with that... I don't like seeing chicken or pigs kept intensively - But with cows they can move about freely...

Also I can see the positive side of keeping cows in all year...
When we bring our cows in in the winter, lameness almost completely stops (helps as we have no digital dermatitis)
More milk, and a controlled diet
Less likely to eat something they're not supposed to...
Vets bills will be the same, as if they are going to get ill, they will indoors or outdoors...

Yes feed prices and labour are increased, but you gather that back via the milk yield increases

I agree that there is nothing like seeing cows out in a field grazing, and I like small herds of cattle (Up to about 300)...

That's just my opinion, I've seen many systems - Different things work differently for different people...

The thing I don't agree with however is keeping a lot of cows in one herd, a farmer loves his cattle, in my opinion these farms with thousands of cattle the owners are really just business men.

Oh and before I forget, a real investigation has been carried out with keeping cattle in all year... They kept cattle in sheds, however they was aloud to go out into the field if they wanted, they also had a concrete area with brushes for enjoyment. They found that the higher yielding cattle and about 80% in total preferred to stay inside, depending on the weather... But it was simply because the high yielding cow can get all the feed she wants so much easier, and the cubicles can be more comfortable to lie on.

So now you know what I feel Smile

But now back on topic please...
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